

SEEKING THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL
FROM THE BIBLE TEACHINGS OF
TED A. ROBERTS


THE GODHEAD
How Many Gods Are There in Heaven?
by: Ted A. Roberts
COMING SOON!
Table of Contents
Chapter 1:
How Many Gods Are There in Heaven?
One of the biggest issues of doctrine these days is how many Gods there are. It's such a big issue, in fact, that it has caused numerous divisions amongst Christian people. The year AD 1914 was a remarkable date in history and religion. That year saw some interesting events, including a natural star shower;*1 the beginning of the Jehovah Witness Millennium Reign;*2 it was the year that Pentecostal organized religion was born in America;*3 the start of World War I;*4 the founder of the “School for the Prophets,” William Sowders, had held his very first church meeting in Columbus, Kentucky;*5 Charlie Chaplin (the world's first movie star) appeared in his first silent picture;*6 Babe Ruth (the world’s first baseball icon) began his professional career;*7 and, most importantly, a major division between the Oneness and Trinitarian beliefs had begun.*8 The need for a correct understanding on the Godhead was so severe at that time that individuals were inclined to believe that if you had the doctrine of the Godhead wrong, you were doomed to burn in flames forever and ever!
Well, unfortunately, that same belief still remains in some circles today; and a great misunderstanding of the Godhead has caused some disastrous effects in the lives and hearts of fellow Christians. However (and even though there are many Oneness believers out there – in that Jesus is the one and only God), it is most popular to believe in three Gods: whether Triune or Trinitarian (either that Three Gods compose, in reality, one Mighty God; or, that there are three separate Gods who are all equal in status with one another – or, even some other variants). So, on that note, let us observe a few scriptures:
Romans 3:30a
Seeing it is one God...
1 Corinthians 8:4c; 8:6a
...and that there is none other God but one.
But to us there is but one God...
Galatians 3:20b
...but God is one.
Ephesians 4:6
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1 Timothy 2:5a
For there is one God...
James 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Observing these scriptures, we can see that there is but one God. But, if that is so, then what do we do with Jesus? Where does He fit in with all of this? Well, some say that Jesus is that one God . . . Digging further into the scriptures, however, we begin to see that there may actually be more than just one God after all.
Genesis 1:26a
And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness...
By reading this passage, we can see that that one God may, in fact, be more than just one. Or, is that really the case? Are there actually three Gods talking to one another in that passage? And, if that’s so, then we must say that there is only one God, and that He is actually made up of three Beings; or, we can imply that God was speaking to the angels in that scenario; or, etc.
But, concerning such thoughts, it would actually be wise at this point to express the idea (which most Bible Scholars do agree upon) that the Hebrew word for God, in the above passage in Genesis, is always observed in the plural, rather than the singular. But, does that prove there’s more than one God? Well, the modern debate would seem to suggest otherwise:
Smith's Bible Dictionary; published in 1863, public domain (see, for instance: https://www.biblestudytools .com/dictionaries/smiths-bible-dictionary/god.html): Throughout the Hebrew Scriptures, two chief names are used for the one true divine Being -- Elohim (as in Genesis 1:26), commonly translated God in our version, and Jehovah, translated Lord. Elohim (as in Genesis 1:26) is the plural of Eloah, (in Arabic, Allah); it is often used in the short form, El, (a word signifying strength, as in El-Shaddai, God Almighty, the name by which God was specially known to the patriarchs) . . . The plural form of Elohim (as in Genesis 1:26) has given rise to much discussion. The fanciful idea that it referred to the trinity of persons in the Godhead hardly finds now a supporter among scholars. It is either what grammarians call the plural of majesty, or it denotes the fullness of divine strength, the sum of the powers displayed by God.
And, there you have it! It would seem that Smith's Bible Dictionary is giving no credit to the idea that this passage, in Genesis 1:26, could refer to more than one God. Especially with the discrediting phrase of: “... hardly finds now a supporter among scholars.” So, does that end the debate concerning this Genesis passage?
Keil and Delitzsch Commentary on the O.T.; published 1866-1891, public domain (see, for instance: https://www.studylight.org/ commentaries/eng/kdo/genesis-1.html) The plural “We” was regarded by the fathers and earlier theologians almost unanimously as indicative of the Trinity: modern commentators, on the contrary, regard it either as pluralis majestatis; or as an address by God to Himself, the subject and object being identical; or as communicative, an address to the spirits or angels who stand around the Deity and constitute His council.
So, we have some who think the “WE” (or, “US”) were angels, some who think it was a single God talking to Himself, and others (the minority of the groups these days, it would seem) who say that it was actually more than one God in conversation . . . So, what's the answer?
The answer to this actually lies in the understanding of whom Jesus really is, and also understanding who or what the Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit) really is. So, let’s begin our investigation.
Explanatory Notes for Chapter 1:
How Many Gods Are There in Heaven?
*1. A natural star shower…
Brilliant Meteors observed in 1914; by Fiammetta Wilson, https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/75/5/449 /1035713 (click on PDF provided); but, also see: https://adsabs .harvard.edu/full/1915MNRAS..75..449M: “During the year 1914 I observed 1,060 meteors in 450 hours of watching, 81 accordance’s. The hourly rate may be considered very small, but this is easily accounted for by the fact that observations were very often maintained in spite of strong moonlight and a nearly all-clouded sky. So long as a few stars showed themselves, I considered the prospect sufficiently inviting to watch, and it is remarkable that on many such occasions I was rewarded by the view of one or two specially brilliant meteors. Out of the 1,060 meteors observed, 103 were all above first magnitude, very many bright ... This is a far higher percentage of fireballs than during any other year I have observed ... Probably I would have been enabled to record several other brilliant meteors during the latter end of the year, but for the fact that since the war my husband has been unable to help me – consequently, whilst I have been writing down notes recording one meteor, another may have eluded me.”
*2. Beginning of the Jehovah Witness Millennium Reign…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschatology_of_Jehovah's_Witnesses:
“The eschatology of Jehovah's Witnesses is central to their religious beliefs. They believe that Jesus Christ has been ruling in heaven as king since 1914, a date they believe was prophesied in Scripture, and that after that time a period of cleansing occurred, resulting in God's selection of the Bible Students associated with Charles Taze Russell to be his people in 1919. They believe the destruction of those who reject their message and thus willfully refuse to obey God will shortly take place at Armageddon, ensuring that the beginning of the new earthly society will be composed of willing subjects of that kingdom.”
http://www.truthmagazine.com/archives/volume37/GOT037111.html: "They still believe Jesus came and was installed king, but invisibly so. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the kingdom is a real government from heaven, that it will rule over the earth, and that Jesus Christ is its appointed invisible king' (Isa. 9:6,7, KJ). Although it occurred invisibly to our human eyes in the heavens, yet it was in the year 1914."
*3. Pentecostal organized religion was born in America...
Assembly of God:
http://ag.org/top/About/History/index.cfm
"The General Council of the Assemblies of God (USA), one of the largest Pentecostal denominations in the United States, was organized in 1914 by a broad coalition of ministers who desired to work together to fulfill common objectives, such as sending missionaries and providing fellowship and accountability. Formed in the midst of the emerging worldwide Pentecostal revival, the Assemblies of God quickly took root in other countries and formed indigenous national organizations."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblies_of_God
"The Assemblies originated from the Pentecostal revival of the early 20th century. This revival led to the founding of the Assemblies of God in the United States in 1914."
Oneness Pentecostalism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneness_Pentecostalism:
"Most people believe this movement first emerged in America around 1914 as the result of doctrinal disputes within the nascent Pentecostal movement and claims an estimated 24 million adherents today, but elements of church following the Apostolic doctrine predate Protestants and the Roman Catholic Church itself."
*4. Start of World War I…
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/first-world-war-erupts-in-europe: "On August 1, 1914, four days after Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia, two more great European powers—Russia and Germany—declare war on each other; the same day, France orders a general mobilization. The so-called “Great War” that ensued would be one of unprecedented destruction and loss of life, resulting in the deaths of some 20 million soldiers and civilians and the physical devastation of much of the European continent."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I: "World War I (WWI or WW1), also known as the First World War or the Great War, was a global war centered in Europe that began on 28 July 1914 and lasted until 11 November 1918. More than 9 million combatants and 7 million civilians died as a result of the war, a casualty rate exacerbated by the belligerents' technological and industrial sophistication, and tactical stalemate. It was one of the deadliest conflicts in history, paving the way for major political changes, including revolutions in many of the nations involved."
*5. The founder of the “School for the Prophets,” William Sowders, had held his very first church meeting in Columbus, Kentucky…
“Brother Sowders held his first meeting in Columbus, Kentucky, in the year 1914.” – ‘The Break of Day: The Life Story of William Sowders;’ written by Oneal Carman in the 1970’s; newly typeset, edited, and published in January 2024 by myself (Ted A. Roberts), and is available in both Paperback and Kindle Ebook at Amazon.com.
*6. Charlie Chaplin appeared in his first silent picture…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chaplin
"Chaplin became a worldwide icon through his screen persona "the Tramp" and is considered one of the most important figures of the film industry … Chaplin was scouted for the film industry, and began appearing in 1914 for Keystone Studios. He soon developed the Tramp persona and formed a large fan base … In 1998, the film critic Andrew Sarris called Chaplin 'arguably the single most important artist produced by the cinema, certainly its most extraordinary performer and probably still its most universal icon.'"
*7. Babe Ruth began his professional career…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babe_Ruth:
“Ruth is regarded as one of the greatest sports heroes in American culture and is considered by many to be the greatest baseball player of all time … In early 1914, Ruth signed a professional baseball contract with Jack Dunn, who owned and managed the minor-league Baltimore Orioles, an International League team ... Ruth made his first appearance as a professional ballplayer in an inter-squad game on March 7, 1914. He played shortstop and pitched the last two innings of a 15–9 victory. In his second at-bat, Ruth hit a long home run to right field; the blast was locally reported to be longer than a legendary shot hit by Jim Thorpe in Fayetteville.”
*8. Division between the Oneness and Trinitarian beliefs…
http://www.letusreason.org/Onenes21.htm: "By the spring of 1914, Ewart accepted the “new found truth” became one of its leading advocates. Ewart reached the conclusion that the singular “name” in Matthew 28:19 was Jesus Christ. He came to believe that the one true God who had revealed himself as Father, in the Son, and as the Holy Spirit was none other than Jesus Christ. To support this view, he pointed to Colossians 2:9, which states that in Jesus dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily … Ewart explained his discovery to other Pentecostal ministers, some of whom rejected his teaching, but others enthusiastically embraced it. On April 15, 1914, Ewart rebaptized Glenn A. Cook, his assistant and a veteran evangelist of the Azusa Street Mission, in the name of Jesus Christ, and Cook rebaptized Ewart. This would set in motion an issue that would divide the Pentecostal movement between the Trinitarians and the Jesus Name only, or Oneness, believers. After Ewart and Cook were rebaptized, they began to rebaptized thousands of Pentecostals with the shorter, new found formula “in Jesus name.” Claiming those baptized with Mt.28 were not valid, it must be “in the name of Jesus” (only). Anyone baptized in the threefold name of “Father, Son, and Holy Spirit”, must renounce that baptism and be rebaptised with the right words said over them, before they can be regarded as biblically baptised."
http://classroom.synonym.com/difference-between-assembly-god-pentecostal-6407.html "The Pentecostal movement began in 1901 when students at Bethel Bible College in Topeka, Kansas came to the conclusion that speaking in unknown languages under the power of the Holy Spirit -- called speaking in tongues -- was the initial sign that a believer had been filled with, or baptized in, the Holy Spirit. The Pentecostal movement, which was initially non-denominational, has since become one of the largest groups within Christianity. Today, more than 700 denominations identify with the Pentecostal movement. The largest of these is the Assemblies of God, which formed in 1914."
Excerpt from The Break of Day: The Life Story of William Sowders by Oneal Carman:
"Many of the early 20th century Pentecostal groups were shattered as a result of the friction and fury generated by the Godhead issue."
Excerpt from: www.gospelassemblyfree.com/facts/sowders.htm
William Sowders: A Man Called Out, Author and date unknown.
PENTECOSTAL CHURCHES ORGANIZE:
"It was at this time that papers began circulating, calling all the preachers to Hot Springs, Arkansas. The purpose was to establish a unified doctrine and establish an organization for those that had been a part of a loose-knit association. They had "come out" only to go "back in." Revelation 18:4 … While Brother Sowders was praying about going to the meeting, one brother in particular was very vocal in urging him to go. He stated that he was going and urged Brother Sowders to accompany him. One night, after much prayer over this matter, Brother Sowders tells us of a dream he had from the Lord as an answer to his prayer. In his dream Brother Sowders saw himself in the hayloft of a large barn. Hearing a noise he looked down, and there in the muck and mire of the dirt floor of the barn he saw this particular brother walking around in the mire with the beasts (animals) of the barnyard. He awakened and said, ‘Lord, what does this mean?’ The Lord said to him, ‘Brother is going with the Beast.’ Revelation 17:3. That settled it for Brother Sowders … When the General Council met in Hot Springs, Arkansas in April of 1914, Brother Sowders did not attend their meeting.”
1 Corinthians 1:10-13
Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
For more extraordinary events that had happened in 1914, see:
http://www.historyorb.com/events/date/1914, and
https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1914.
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Chapter 2
Let us begin with the Holy Ghost
If we could look into Heaven, and actually see how many Beings are sitting on or are standing around the throne(s) – not counting all the angels or other kinds of holy hosts of Heaven – but actually see the mighty God or Gods who have preeminence above all, we would then be able to see exactly how many headship Beings there actually are without having to argue about the number anymore; and the issue would then be finally settled.*9 But since we cannot do that, we must rely upon the scriptures for guidance.
Now, concerning the Holy Ghost, we know that it is administered (or ‘had’ been administered, in the past only, according to some beliefs*10) unto all the holy people of God on this earth. So, a logical question concerning this event would be, if the Holy Ghost is a single Being, then how can one Being be in millions of people at once? In other words, if the single Being of the Holy Spirit is in me, how can He be in you at the same time? A quick, easy answer, of course, could be: “Well, He’s God! He can do anything that He wants!” Or: “Why limit God to what we can only think and understand?” However, and as legitimate as such thoughts can be, it still doesn’t answer how a single Being can be spread so much into many other single Beings all over the world. After all, the number one can only equal one, but not millions! And, too, God is logical, as we can see from the Bible; and, that even though He’s from another Realm entirely – a spiritual Realm as opposed to anything natural – His biblical concepts are actually based on things that we can understand from this natural realm. This is why, in my humble opinion, He uses natural elements to describe heavenly things by . . . What do I mean? . . . Well, take for instance, the Wind, the Earth, the Stars, the Moon, the Sun, the Trees, the Gardens, the Waters, and etc., from this natural earth, and see how the scriptures make use of them, metaphorically (of what we can understand), to teach us spiritual lessons by . . . For instance:
John 3:8
The [natural] wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit [i.e. the spiritual wind].
2 Corinthians 4:7
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels [our natural bodies], that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
That is, we are compared to the Earth since we came out of the Earth; therefore, we can be called Earth ourselves (see: Genesis 2:7) . . . And, then, in Jude, that writer was speaking of certain men who were wicked; and, he began to metaphorically compare them to certain bad elements of the Earth; such as:
Jude 1:12-13
These [men] are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water [i.e. they can’t hold-in the Holy Ghost; comparable, metaphorically, to water at times – see John 7:38-39a, just below, as an example; and, also, for clouds (as people), also see: Hebrews 12:1], carried about of winds [by every “wind” of doctrine*11: see Ephesians 4:14]; trees whose fruit withereth [Jesus compared those bad-guys, those Jewish church leaders of His day, to a fig tree. See Hosea 9:10; and Matthew 21:19], without fruit [no fruit of the Spirit within them: Galatians 5:22], twice dead [Revelation 20:14], plucked up by the roots [Matthew 3:10]; Raging waves of the sea [2nd Samuel 22:5 and Zechariah 10:11], foaming out their own shame; [these guys are:] wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
John 7:38-39a (Jesus speaking)
He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. But this [water] spake he of the Spirit…
Psalms 1:1-3
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.Revelation 17:15
And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
And, etc., etc., etc. I really don’t think that this is any different for how we can understand the Godhead, in trying to determine what their roles in all of this is, and of how the Bible tries to explain to us what we can comprehend. For instance, and as simple as it may sound (for, it’s really man who complicates things), that there’s actually a really good reason why two of those Gods are known as Father and Son . . . What is the reason? . . . Well, they are actually Father and Son. Yep! It’s that simple! That is, one God had “created” the other God, and had become His Father (see: Revelation 3:14c – of which verse I will expound upon soon enough, so please stay tuned for such explanations!). And, we understand this simple concept when we ourselves have a natural Father who had “birthed” us in his likeness and image:
Genesis 5:3
And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his [Adam’s] own likeness, after his [Adam’s] image; and called his name Seth.
Adam then became Seth’s father. So, why can’t this be the same concept for the heavenly Father and Son? . . . Again, we rely upon scripture as our guide. But, and even so, can the Bible really tell us this? . . . Well, that’s what we’re here to find out!
Hebrews 1:3
[Jesus] Who being the brightness of his glory [of the Father’s glory], and [is] the express image of his person [just like Seth was in the image of his father Adam], and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high.
2 Corinthians 4:4b
…Christ [Jesus], who is the image of God [the Father]…*?
Colossians 1:13-15a
[the Father] Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son [Jesus]: In whom [i.e. Jesus] we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God…
Sometimes, as we’ll find out, there is simple speech in the Bible to where we don’t have to complicate things to both our own understandings or for anybody else’s understandings either. And, I use this same concept in trying to figure out the Holy Ghost, in that a single Being can’t actually, nor literally, be in everybody at the same time; but, a “Spirit” can! No, not a Spirit-Being, such as the Father is Himself (an idea that we’ll also explore in just a moment – i.e. a Being that is of the Spirit-Realm as opposed to the natural; hence, a Spirit-Being); but, and as I will continue to explain, the Holy Ghost Itself is really just a Spirit only – such as a life-force or a life-essence; but, it’s not an actual Being . . . Really? . . . Which is a concept that I will now explain – assuming that the reader will not toss this book down for such a stark statement; and will allow me to explain my position. Of which position will be gained by scripture alone and not from human conjecture. That is, not from some thoughts and reasonings that just “sound good.”
Since the Holy Spirit is also called a “Ghost”*13 (i.e. the “Holy” Ghost – but, no, not a spook like Casper the Friendly Ghost!), we should understand the term “ghost” as to being the “breath” of a living Being; such as, once again, the “Ghost/Breath” of the Father God. Though, it’s not breath as man has (which is animated by natural oxygen), it’s still a Breath (life!) nonetheless . . . Now, let’s watch this unfold:
1 Thessalonians 4:8
He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God [i.e. the Father-God], who hath also given unto us HIS holy Spirit [His Breath; His life-essence].
Did you catch that? The Father-God has given unto us HIS Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost. Read the text again to see. Obviously, the wording here does not suggest that one God had given us another God, as you would give a gift to a person. And, unlike a living Being, the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost was, and still is, a given gift to God’s children:
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive THE GIFT of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 10:45
And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out THE GIFT of the Holy Ghost.
Even though the Father-God had “sent” His Son Jesus to Earth for an earthen ministry (John 5:23; 5:30; 5:36; etc.), that’s not the same thing as God “gifting” his children the Holy Ghost. If something is gifted, it becomes a possession. And, even though the Father still has His Holy Spirit intact within Himself, we now, also, have it intact within us as well – we “possess” it just as the Father does . . . Again, how can such wording (as in 1st Thessalonians 4:8) bespeak of an actual Being? . . . But, we’re certainly not through with such thoughts . . . We’ll also see this idea, when, in another moment, I’ll go over some dictionary meanings to the words “Ghost” and “Spirit.” But, first, let’s look at the word ‘Wind’ from Strong’s Greek Dictionary:
Wind/Pneuma (pnyoo'-mah), G4151 (from Strong’s Greek Dictionary – and, as is seen in John 3:8) From G4154; a current of air, that is, BREATH (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively a spirit, that is, (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, daemon, or (divine) God, Christ’s spirit, the Holy spirit: - ghost, life, spirit (-ual, -ually), mind. Compare G5590.
In John 3:8 (of what we’ve read just a moment ago; and, from where I had pulled this dictionary meaning from for the word “wind”), we’ve already seen that Jesus Himself had compared the Holy Spirit/Ghost with that natural wind rather than to an actual Being; for, winds, as Strong’s has just shown us, can also mean Breath . . . So, now, let’s go ahead and see what Webster's Unabridged Dictionary (from 1828, public domain) meaning of the word Ghost is; because, it’s very important in our studies; though, I will only list the meanings that are relevant to our current thoughts:*14
GHOST:
meaning #4: a spiritual Being.
meaning #5: the principle of life; soul; spirit.
And, Webster's meaning of Spirit...
SPIRIT
Breathing or Breathe
meaning #1: the principle of conscious life . . .
meaning #5: a supernatural, incorporeal Being. One inhabiting a place. or having a particular character.
meaning #9: the divine influence as an agency working in the heart of man.
meaning #11: the third person of the Trinity; Holy Spirit.
meaning #26: the spirit - God.
Now, considering these modern-day dictionary meanings, we can see that several conclusions can be drawn. First conclusion can be that the Holy Spirit (or, the Holy Ghost), is an actual Being – one single Being.*15 The second conclusion can be that the Spirit merely means life, or breath, and an unction for a conscious life . . . Now, let's continue to explore the scriptures:
Romans 5:5
...the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
Again, we see that the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is given to us; but, given by whom? Did the Holy Ghost simply give Himself? Or, did another Being (such as the Father-God – of whom I’ve already suggested) give the Holy Ghost unto us? That is, gifted to us?
John 14:16 & 14:26 (Jesus speaking)
And I will pray the Father, and He [the Father] shall give you another comforter, that He may abide with you forever . . . But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things…
There are a couple of thoughts to be gleaned from these passages, too. First, we can clearly see that the Holy Ghost did not send Himself; but (and, as I’ve already suggested several times already – to which Jesus actually confirms in John 14:16 and verse 26), the Father did send Him/It. Does this then make the Father greater than the Holy Ghost in status? Second thought: it would seem in these passages that the Holy Ghost is referenced as a He. That is, if we consider this phrase (from the above passage): “…that He [the Holy Ghost] may abide with you forever.” This makes it seem that He is an actual Being – a separate Being, perhaps, from the other two Gods. That is, if we are even reading that verse correctly; for, it could also mean this:
John 14:16 & 14:26
And I will pray the Father, and He [the Father] shall give you another comforter, [so] that He [the Father – not the Holy Ghost in this instance] may abide with you forever . . . But the comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, He [the Father, again – but, ‘through’ the Holy Ghost] shall teach you all things….
By expressing it like this, it would seem that I’m calling this “He," in these current verses, the Father and not the Holy Ghost*16 . . . We must know, however, that the Father Himself is also considered to be a Spirit. But, is he a Spirit in the sense that He’s just a life-force or a life-essence rather than an actual Being? Or, is the Father (despite He being called a “Spirit” by His own Son – as we’re fixing to see) an actual Being? As in a Spirit-Being? A Being, that is, who is of and from a Spirit-Realm?
John 4:24 (Jesus speaking)
God is a Spirit:*17 [see this important Explanatory Note] and they that worship him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.
But, does this current passage refer to God the Holy Spirit or to God the Father? Let’s look at the passage right above it to keep it in context...
John 4:21-24
Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God [again, the “Father”] is a Spirit: and they that worship him [the Father] must worship him [the Father] in spirit and in truth.
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No, Jesus did not switch suddenly to God the Holy Ghost in this passage, to describe the Holy Ghost as a Spirit; but, He was telling us that the Father is considered a Spirit, too . . . Just a Breath only? (again, see my Explanatory Note, called: “God is a Spirit…”) . . . No, I’m really am not trying to be complicated with all of this; for, we must realize that somewhere down the line there had to be an ‘originator’ of everything; an original, first God, who began this whole thing off; i.e. who had begun life as we know it – not just on Earth, but in Heaven, too … Really? Only one? … But, if so, then which God was it? God the Father? God the Son? Or, God the Holy Ghost? . . . Before answering this question directly, we need to first understand that we needn’t be thrown off with the term “Ghost” in all of this – especially when we are looking at the words Holy and Ghost together, as if there is a lot to be read from a biblical perspective. Indeed, the term ghost has become quite elaborate by our day and time; and, it’s more than likely because of a total misunderstanding of the biblical text itself when it explains that when a person expires (i.e. dies), that they “give up the ghost;” as if some type of animated Being had left their body to spook folks here on Earth*18 (please see this very important Explanatory Note).
Genesis 25:8
Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good old age, an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people.
Ghost/GaÌ‚va‛ (gaw-vah'), H1478, Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary: A primitive root; to breathe out, that is, (by implication) expire: - die, be dead, give up the ghost, perish.
Adam Clarke’s Commentary on the Bible: Highly as I value our translation [i.e. the King James Bible] for general accuracy, fidelity, and elegance, I must beg leave to dissent from this version [for this verse]. The original word יגוע yigva, from the root גוע gava, signifies to pant for breath, to expire, to cease from breathing, or to breathe one’s last; and here, and wherever the original word is used, the simple term expired would be the proper expression. In our translation this expression occurs Genesis 25:8, Genesis 25:17; Genesis 35:29; Genesis 44:33; Job 3:11; Job 10:18; Job 11:20; Job 13:19; Job 14:10; Lamentations 1:19; in all of which places the original is גוע gava. It occurs also in our translation, Jeremiah 15:9, but there the original is × ×¤×—×” × ×¤×©×” naphecah naphshah, she breathed out her soul; the verb גוע gava not being used. Now as our English word ghost, from the Anglo-Saxon gast, an inmate, inhabitant, guest (a casual visitant), also a spirit, is now restricted among us to the latter meaning, always signifying the immortal spirit or soul of man, the guest of the body; and as giving up the spirit, ghost, or soul, is an act not proper to man, though commending it to God, in our last moments, is both an act of faith and piety; and as giving up the ghost, i.e., dismissing his spirit from his body, is attributed to Jesus Christ, to whom alone it is proper, I therefore object against its use in every other case [i.e. other than saying that it simply means to expire from this current life, ceasing to exist].
So saying, “giving up the ghost,” from a biblical point-of-view, does NOT mean some spook like Casper had left our bodies. Indeed, it only means to die, to expire, to breath one’s last breath (see, again, and just above, the Hebrew definition for “ghost” from Strong’s Dictionary). Therefore, “ghost,” in the Bible (when it comes to humans in this present life), means one’s life whilst they actually lived on Earth, not a life after death*19 . . . Indeed, I had already quoted a similar thought a moment ago, in an Explanatory Note, called: “Since it’s also called a ‘Ghost’…” where I had quoted an article at Wikipedia; saying:
“Beginning in the 20th century, [Bible] translations overwhelmingly prefer "Holy Spirit", partly because the general English term "ghost" has increasingly come to refer only to the spirit of a dead person” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit_in_Christianity).
But, still, what about the soul itself? Does it become Casper? Is our soul the ghost of our own story? Again, like Casper the friendly ghost? . . . Once more (and, I really don’t mean to keep repeating this, as I’ve done several times already in my Explanatory Notes), I actually tackle this subject head-on, and with much detail, in my aforementioned, already published book in this Teaching Series, called: “Satan, the Devil, and Hell.” Please check that book to answer all such questions. But, indeed, at the conclusion therein, I expounded that I do not see nor believe in literal “ghosts” who spook our natural realm; being, as it were, some types of unsettled souls that got released from people’s bodies, and are looking for some kind of rest. I say again that too much is being read in such simple sentences of our Bibles . . . But, pray tell, where else could we learn the truth about such matters other than from God’s Written Word? . . . Not only, but we must again consider that a sinner’s soul actually dies (as I have already covered in an Explanatory Note for this chapter, called: “As if some type of animated Being had left their body to spook folks here on earth…”). Not just the body of a sinner dies, but the soul itself dies. And, if so, then we have an entirely different situation on our hands; for, if the soul itself dies, then how can it be around to spook anybody? That thought alone should heavily be mediated upon . . . Please consider, one last time, the verbiage in Ezekiel 18:4; and from verse 20a, when they say: “The soul that sinneth, it shall die…”
Explanatory Notes for Chapter 2
Let us begin with the Holy Ghost
*9. The issue would then be finally settled… This book does NOT assume that the correct calculation of how many Gods who sit on the throne (or thrones) in Heaven is a salvation issue – even though many have made it so; in that if you get the number of them wrong, then you are doomed! Frankly, what does it really matter?* (please see this upcoming Sub-Note for that stark question) That is, whether there is only one, whether there are two of them, or whether there are three of them? Or, even more! That is, of course, and just as long as we worship and serve either Jesus Himself; or, and more specifically, the God of whom even Jesus serves. Therefore, Jesus is the key, and the pathway to true and ultimate salvation; for, it’s not by any other name than Jesus whereby mankind can be saved:
Acts 4:10-12
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
In my humble opinion, by either guessing correctly or incorrectly, of the number of God(s), is not (once again) what really counts; for, what will actually matter at the end of the day, rather, is whether you have had love toward your brother or sister in Christ. That is, loving them even despite how many Gods that they think there really are. Those who actually know the Bible should be able to swear to this statement.
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for IT is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
But, does that statement include knowing the true number of Gods in Heaven? There is no such scripture that actually says so. Instead, what the scriptures do say is that without pure Godly Love, toward one another (in Christ Jesus, of course!), we cannot experience a true, inner resurrection from a dead stasis:
1 John 3:14-16
We know that we have passed from death unto life [spiritually speaking, of course; and, on THIS side of the grave], because we love the brethren [but not because we’ve guessed the correct number of Gods in Heaven]. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
But, then, John did not add that if that brother got the Godhead issue wrong, that he’s doomed anyways – so why bother loving him? … On the other hand, by me making these statements (in that the Godhead number is not a salvation issue), does it then make a book like this obsolete and unnecessary? Nay, friends; for, just as long as somebody believes that this is a salvation issue, then a correct understanding has to be in order so that we can then move on to better things – such as, once again, pure Godly, Agape Love, one toward another. And, yes, that does include loving those who think that there are either more or less Gods than you. Walking in the light together, just as God is in the light, doesn’t have to mean that our doctrines coincide with one another (1st John 1:7). And, though there is a correct doctrine (for, I’m certainly not trying to imply that there isn’t, and that chaos over the biblical interpretations should ensue), I am saying that everybody is on different learning levels in their Godly understandings, and that if they are wrong on something at one period in their Christian walk in God, that we shouldn’t be so quick to shoot them down if they disagree with our own doctrine. Walking in the light surely means walking in Godly Love, one toward another. Didn’t Jesus say that we even have to love our enemies? (Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:27; and Luke 6:35) If so, then how much more our brothers or sisters who view the Bible a bit differently than us? (Galatians 6:10) Of whom, indeed, views the Godhead issue differently than us! … For more information on this issue (on who should be right in the scriptures; of who should be the final authority on biblical doctrine – since I could go on and on with my explanations here, but it’s not our main topic), I’ve already spoke at length on this in a previous book of mine; in: “The Church and the Five-Fold Ministry: Should we put our trust in man?” Please see that book for more on that topic.
*What does it really matter?...
No, I’m not taking this subject with slight regard, and I’m not saying that it’s not important to know or to study. By my question, I merely meant what does it matter for one’s salvation! As if the correct answer is the key to getting into Heaven. For, it’s really not – as I had continued to explain in the rest of this current Explanatory Note.
*10. Or had been administered, in the past only, according to some beliefs… I, myself, do believe that what had been experienced on the Day of Pentecost (i.e. of what those folks in the upper room had experienced with the Holy Ghost) can also be experienced by us today; in that we can certainly get effected by the Holy Ghost to do what those folks were doing back then – even speaking in tongues! In here, I will not go over why I say this, but I have already gone-over quite a bit of what I think about all of that in some previous books of mine in this current Teaching Series; and, I will continue to speak about it in an upcoming book that will deal exclusively with speaking in tongues within a Christian world today. So, stay tuned for that!
*11. By every “wind” of doctrine… Indeed! Metaphorical comparisons can be duplicated in the Bible … What do I mean? … Well, just like Water in scripture (which can mean a few different things), then so can other natural elements, too … Here are some quick examples of what I mean:
WATER:
John 7:38-39a
He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living WATER. (But this [living water] spake he of the SPIRIT…) [i.e. Water=God’s Spirit]
Revelation 17:15
And he saith unto me, The WATERS which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are PEOPLES, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues [i.e. Waters=People].
WIND:
John 3:8
The WIND bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the SPIRIT [i.e. Comparing Winds with God’s Spirit].
Ephesians 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every WIND of DOCTRINE, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive [i.e. Wind=False Doctrine].
And, these were just a few examples from the many in the scriptures. But, why not? I mean, why limit ourselves to only one comparison for a single word, right? Even though (and, I do get this!), it could cause some confusion for some folks in that they may mistake one metaphor for another in their biblical investigations … Actually, and as I had explained in pretty good detail (in my books: “In the Beginning: It was spiritual from the very start,” and also in: “The Church and the Five-Fold Ministry: Should we put our trust into Man?”), God does things like this on purpose in His Written Word, simply to throw self-seeking investigators off the proper trail. That is, those of whom only wish to use God’s Word for self-gain – either materialistically, or to gain great wealth by, or even to get fame and power … Consider Jesus’ own words on the matter:
Matthew 13:10-17
And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? [in metaphors*/in spiritual riddles] He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the MYSTERIES of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
But, thankfully, God preserves the truth for His chosen children – just as He informed His students of in the last of that quote: “But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.” Just as long as our heart is right, we’ll eventually gain true understandings – though, that goal is certainly not reached overnight! But, just have patience…
*Why speakest thou unto them in parables? [in metaphors]…
I link “parables” with “metaphors” quite thoroughly in Part I of my “Spiritual Side of Creation” part of my Teaching Series, in my book: “In the Beginning: It was spiritual from the very start.” Please check that title for full clarity.
*12. Christ [Jesus], who is the image of God [the Father]… Though some folks may see that Jesus was only in the Father’s likeness and image whilst He was on Earth for an earthen ministry (but, then, had become “one” with the Father in body – as in being the same Person), I will show later-on herein (when dealing exclusively with Jesus) that Jesus had “remained” the “Son of God” even after His ascension – boldly painting a distinction between those two Gods.
*13. Since the Holy Spirit is also called a “Ghost”…
Wikipedia, from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit _in_Christianity
“The English terms "Holy Ghost" and "Holy Spirit" are complete synonyms: one derives from the Old English gast and the other from the Latin loanword spiritus. Like pneuma [which ‘pneuma’ is translated as “wind” in John 3:8 in the KJV – as we’ll discuss more in a moment, in the main part of this book], they both refer to the breath, to its animating power, and to the soul. The Old English term is shared by all other Germanic languages (compare, e.g., the German Geist) and it is older; the King James Bible typically uses "Holy Ghost". Beginning in the 20th century, translations overwhelmingly prefer "Holy Spirit", partly because the general English term "ghost" has increasingly come to refer only to the spirit of a dead person.”
*14. I will only list the meanings that are relevant to our current thoughts… In cases like this, in that I will only quote certain passages from external books (i.e. other than the Bible – from dictionaries, from commentaries, etc.), it should be noted that I do not do so to leave out important information, but am merely narrowing the quotes to fit our current themes; but, I do give my sources so that the reader, if they so wish, can continue these studies even further … This is the case with all of my books, in that I lay the basic ground work for further research on the readers’ part.
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*15. An actual Being – one single Being… We must realize, however, that even though I myself recommend man-made dictionaries and commentaries, that doesn’t mean that I endorse every single thing that they say. But, and what’s to be admitted to, that even if incorrect meanings surface in modern-day dictionaries (and, I believe that certainly can be the case), surely those meanings HAVE become meanings now – even if it wasn’t the original meaning – hence the dictionary gives several entries for one, single word; for, over time, meanings do get updated and changed. This shouldn’t scare us, though, but simply prompt us to seek “original” meanings to words if we can.
2 Timothy 2:15a
Study to shew thyself approved unto God…
Having said that, I still believe that dictionaries and commentaries can be a great help in our biblical investigations. However, and with how things are going in our modern times (and, I mean within the past twenty years or so, and with how many people purposely are trying to destroy meanings [of both word definitions, of history, and even of how life itself should be interpreted]), then I’d say that our best bet is to stick with “older” dictionaries and commentaries; which, in my humble opinion – and, though not perfect – have “less” mistakes than what we see in our more recent times.
*16. I’m calling this “He," in these current verses, the Father and not the Holy Ghost… Frankly, and even if one were to either interpret this, or even any other biblical passage, as to saying that the scriptures do indeed call the Holy Ghost a “He” in various other places, it still doesn’t prove, beyond the shadow of doubt, that it’s an actual Being ... But, why? … The Bible is poetically expressive; and, we see that other things therein, as well, which aren’t actual Beings, are called by similar addresses. Take for instance, the Tree of Life. Personally, I’ve never heard anybody say that such a tree was an actual Being (though, that’s not saying that nobody has ever!); and, yet, we see that tree being referenced as a “her” in the book/letter of Revelation:
Revelation 22:2
In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded HER fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
The same is true from the writer of Proverbs, who calls Widom and Understanding a “she” and a “her;” but, finally reveals that he was speaking of that same Tree of Life all along:
Proverbs 3:13-18
Happy is the man that findeth WISDOM, and the man that getteth UNDERSTANDING. For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold. SHE [this wisdom and understanding] is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto HER. Length of days is in HER right hand; and in HER left hand riches and honour. HER ways are ways of pleasantness, and all HER paths are peace. SHE IS A TREE OF LIFE to them that lay hold upon HER: and happy is every one that retaineth HER.
Or, how about other things therein?
Psalms 46:4-5
There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High. God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.
Psalms 80:8-11
Thou hast brought a vine out of Egypt: thou hast cast out the heathen, and planted it. Thou preparedst room before it, and didst cause it to take deep root, and it filled the land. The hills were covered with the shadow of it, and the boughs thereof were like the goodly cedars. She sent out her boughs unto the sea, and her branches unto the river.
And, etc. There certainly are other examples of the Bible calling things a “he,” or a “her,” that aren’t strictly alive. The same holds true for our modern times when we would call things, such as a ship, or a boat, a “her.” Such circumstances, again, if one were found for the Holy Ghost, cannot prove that it’s an actual, Living Being. It would be best, therefore, in order to prove your position (that the Holy Spirit is an actual Being), to find other topics therein concerning such a Spirit other than the few instances that call, or “seem” to call, this Holy Ghost a “he,” to help your case.
*17. God is a Spirit… The Greek word for “Spirit,” used in the original scriptures, suggests (like a lot of other word-meanings) several definitions. One of which, of course, can mean an actual Being; the other, of course, meaning an essence, or life-force, such as the “breath” (life of a soul) that isn’t itself an actual Being. Let’s once again consider the Dictionary meaning for Pneuma – which I gave, in the main part of the book, when we observed the English translated word Wind; for, it’s the same Greek word used for Spirit:
Spirit/Wind/Pneuma (pnyoo'-mah), G4151, from Strong’s Greek Dictionary: From G4154; a current of air, that is, breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively a spirit, that is, (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, daemon, or (divine) God, Christ’s spirit, the Holy spirit: - ghost, life, spirit (-ual, -ually), mind. Compare G5590.
Again, this is the same Greek word used by Jesus, in John 3:8, to describe the “wind” when He had compared it with the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost (in a metaphoric comparison). In this repeated Strong’s Dictionary meaning, we can see, as I have already said, several definitions for this one Greek word. First, it can mean wind, air, or even breath; it’s also a spirit – such as a human, rational soul; that is, a vital principle or a mental disposition, but not an actual Being. Though next, it describes a superhuman, such as an angel, or even a divine God – which are actual Beings. Or, it can simply mean Christ’s Spirit, such as His own Holy spirit, i.e. His Ghost, His Life, His own, personal Spirit … With such varied meanings, we have to keep the scriptures, where this Greek word appears, in complete context of its subject – of not only the current thought of a given biblical chapter, but of how it flows, too, with other scriptures in the Bible; for, at one point in the biblical account, it can simply mean the natural wind that blows outside; or, at other times, it can mean the breath of a particular Being; it can describe their liveliness – of they being “spirited.” It can even describe an actual Being; or, just the life of that Being, it’s inner life; and, etc. So, and with our current verse (“God is a Spirit…” [John 4:24]), how can it flow best? My conclusions herein, of course, is that this verse is speaking of the Father-God as an actual Being. That is, a Spirit-Being … But, we’ll see this as we continue to plod along, and in the upcoming chapters as well.
*18. As if some type of animated Being had left their body to spook folks here on Earth… Even though I will continue to explain, in the main part of the book, that “giving up the ghost” does NOT mean having an animated, spirit Being leave our bodies at physical death (but, rather, that the person in question simply “died” or “expired” from this earthen existence; and, that the person’s soul [again, as I will certainly explain how and why] either itself actually dies, or that they simply go to Heaven – for, there is no other destination!*), I wanted to quickly throw in another thought on this subject, and in the form of Jesus’ own death at the cross.
Luke 23:46
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
Even though it’s most popular to believe that when Jesus had died on the cross, that His “soul” remained alive to go down to Hell to set some captives free, I, in a couple of my already published books in this Teaching Series, do challenge this age-old theory, in saying that He did no such thing; but, rather, that He had actually died TOTALLY. And, yes, I do mean dying body, soul, and spirit! Which, if true, could help prove a point of mine that when a sinner’s “soul” dies (not just their body, but their soul, too!), that they themselves don’t go anywhere to do anything, for they are dead-dead: completely ceased from existence ... Certainly, with such a thought, I am not suggesting that Jesus had sin in His life when He had died upon the cross; and, I’m saying this because of my quick comparison of Jesus dying and of how I said that it was similar to when a sinner dies. Of course, I make this comparison simply because when Jesus did die, the Bible itself claims that despite He not having sin Himself (as is seen in Hebrews 4:15), He nevertheless died the death of a sinner:
2 Corinthians 5:21
For he [the Father] hath made him [Jesus] to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Of which thoughts I will repeat again in just a moment, along with the requoting of this verse in 2nd Corinthians … I am challenging the reader to consider the impact of, again, a soul dying rather than just the body of a person dying. And, I glean this with these two verses:
Ezekiel 18:4
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
And…
Ezekiel 18:20a
The soul that sinneth, it shall die…
Of which ideas I go over thoroughly in my already published book in this Teaching Series, called “Satan, the Devil, and Hell,” and with extreme detail, including a word study on the Hebrew word used for soul, and, etc. Also, I’ll repeat, that I will speak a little more on this in just a moment; but, first, I want to expand the thought that when Jesus had died on the cross, that He didn’t go anywhere to do anything; such as, again, to go down to the depths of hell to set anybody at liberty down there. And, that’s despite verses such as this that may make us think so:
Psalms 16:10
For thou [Father] wilt not leave my soul [Jesus’ soul] in hell; neither wilt thou [Father] suffer thine Holy One [Jesus] to see corruption.
Like I said, I had already challenged such a notion in several of my other books – especially in my book on Satan (in a chapter, therein, called: “What Happens to Souls When They Die?”) – of, again, Jesus not going anywhere whilst in the tomb, and that Psalms 16:10 can actually be interpreted in another way … How? … In just a little bit, I will offer another interpretation of hell, in that it doesn’t only mean a burning abyss at the center of the Earth. And, if so, then what else could it mean? Again, as we’ll see in just a moment, hell can also mean the grave: as in, six-feet underground; but not any further down than that. Therefore, and after you’ve seen my talks concerning both meanings for hell, you may want to revisit this current thought, and see that just as some say Jesus went down to a burning hell to do such and such feat, that we could also say, to the contrary, that He simply went into the tomb (His own grave) of where the Father did not leave Him, and neither allowed Him to see corruption therein – that is, His body did not rot, nor decay; but had become glorified, instead, on the third day. Therefore, if we must attribute this Psalm to Jesus (even if David wrote it; for, God can certainly speak ‘through’ folks!), then here’s our other solution – which, again, will become more clear in just a little bit when I paint a broader stroke with my words:
Psalms 16:10
For thou [Father] wilt not leave my soul [Jesus’ soul] in hell [in the grave/tomb]; neither wilt thou [Father] suffer thine Holy One [Jesus] to see corruption [his body won’t decay; for, He will arise again very soon].
We even see Peter himself discouraging any thoughts about Jesus going anywhere whilst His body laid in the tomb, here:
1 Peter 3:18-20a
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient…
What most people read with this is only this sentence: “…he went and preached unto the spirits in prison…” But, what is actually missed is what was said just before this: “…being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit…” And, why should that make a difference? It’s because that before Jesus did such a thing (of freeing spirits), He had already arisen from the tomb … What was that? … Think about the verbiage, as I add in some thoughts [in brackets]: “…being put to death in the flesh [on the cross], but quickened [made alive] by the Spirit [on the third day]…” Now, let’s add that with the very next verse, so that we can see them back to back: “…being put to death in the flesh [on the cross], but quickened [made alive] by the Spirit [on the third day]: By which [by which quickening – again, on the third day] also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison…” But, can such thoughts really make any sense? Yes, if we get it out of our minds that Jesus went anywhere whilst in the tomb – seeing as He had first arisen before any imprisoned spirit got preached to. And, if that’s true, then how could He preach unto the spirits in prison before He arose? He actually did so (once again) after His resurrection, but through His own disciples’ preaching, beginning on the Day of Pentecost (Remember, the Holy Ghost, which had helped those men preach with “power” [see Acts 1:8], had come in the name of Jesus – John 14:26). Those spirits in prison weren’t the souls down in hell, but were, instead, imprisoned souls here on Earth (that is, ungodly mankind!), who certainly needed salvation to come unto them. And, this, again, is done through preaching:
1 Corinthians 1:18;21
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. [21] For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Jesus preaching, as it were, through His ministers;** for, it’s not their message, but it’s the messages of God … But, to illustrate this even further (that Jesus didn’t do anything whilst in the tomb), we are told, by Isaiah, that Jesus was (when He was in that tomb) fully dead … Really? … This comes right back to the thought of souls dying. Again, not just the body of the sinner dying, but the soul of the sinner dying. And, we know, through the writings of Paul, that Jesus certainly died the death of a sinner – even though He Himself knew no sin … Therefore, let’s quote this verse one last time:
2 Corinthians 5:21
For he [the Father] hath made him [Jesus] to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
But, watch this:
Isaiah 53:12
Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he [Jesus] hath POURED OUT HIS SOUL UNTO DEATH*** [not just His body dying]: AND HE WAS NUMBERED WITH THE TRANSGRESSORS [again, dying the death of a sinner]; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Again, this was not only Jesus’ body dying, but of He pouring out His soul unto death, too; for, His death had to be the death of a sinner – which, as I’ve said, is a TOTAL death. Let’s see that again, too:
Ezekiel 18:20a
The soul that sinneth, it shall die…
Once more, please read chapter 10 from my already published book: “Satan, the Devil, and Hell” (called: “What Happens to Souls When They Die?”) for more about a dying soul. Because, I know for certain that such a quick analysis cannot satisfy everybody. Especially, when all a reader may have known is that, and just as soon as a person physically dies (if they were a sinner), that their soul goes straight to hell. But, if that’s the case, then Isaiah was wrong on both accounts. That is, that souls can die, and that Jesus Himself had poured out His soul unto death. So, we’re faced with an immediate problem ... Not only, but we have other scriptures to contend with as well – which also speaks of a total death for sinners. Such as, for instance:
Ecclesiastes 9:5b
…the dead know not any thing…
If the dead know nothing, then how do they know they’re being tortured for eternity? And, not only, but how can they be sorry for what they had done whilst on Earth if they know not anything? … Well, perhaps I’m just reading that wrong … Perhaps … But, then, we have more verses to get around:
Psalms 31:17
Let me not be ashamed, O LORD; for I have called upon thee: let the wicked be ashamed, and let them be silent in the grave. [sheol, i.e. “grave” – translated as hell in other verses].
Hell/Grave/She'ôl (sheh-ole'), H7585, from Strong's Hebrew Dictionary: From H7592; hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranian retreat), including its accessories and inmates: - grave, hell, pit.
If one were being tortured in sheol (again, either translated as grave or hell in many verses of the King James Bible – for, they all use the same Hebrew word sheol), then how can they be silent in the grave/sheol?
Ecclesiastes 9:10
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave [i.e. sheol], whither thou goest.
There is no knowledge, wisdom, work, or device to be found in sheol. How can that be if the sinning soul is being tortured there? … And, finally, and on this same thought, we see this:
Ecclesiastes 3:18-21
I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men [natural mankind], that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts [having nothing more than animalistic natures like wild animals]. For that [fate] which befalleth the sons of men [mankind] befalleth beasts [animals]; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. ALL GO UNTO ONE PLACE; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. Who knoweth the [righteous] spirit of man that goeth upward [to God, after they physically die], and the spirit of the beast [both animals and sinning mankind] that goeth downward to the earth [to the grave/sheol]?
So much to be said of this! Especially verse 20. I will repeat it just so we can see how stark of a statement this really is:
Ecclesiastes 3:20
All [mankind and animals] go unto one place [you mean to a fiery hell? Nay, but:]; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
This scripture just gave us the destination of sinning mankind; for, wherever that destination is, it’ll be shared by non-sinning animals. For, “ALL [man and animal] go unto one place…” And, if that one place be hell, then why, pray tell, do non-sinning animals deserve to go there also? Of course, one could believe that there are sinning animals, but where does it say so in the Bible? Nay; sinners are only mankind, not the animals. And, here, in this verse, it tells us that mankind, who have the nature of the beast, will have the same final destination as all animals. So, where is that? … Certainly, there are two definitions for the world hell in the Old Testament, right? That is, for the Hebrew word Sheol. Let’s see it again:
Hell, Grave, She'ôl (sheh-ole'), H7585, from Strong's Hebrew Dictionary: From H7592; hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranian retreat), including its accessories and inmates: - grave, hell, pit.
That is, as being both the grave, and of a burning hell beneath the Earth … But, seriously, are there really two different definitions here, as the King James Bible seems to imply? (again, as they had translated the word sheol as both hell and the grave therein) Or, is there really only one definition? And, if only one definition, then which one is it? A traditional, fiery, burning hell? Or, simply the grave? As in, being six feet underground, but no further down? Having a person’s destination, that is, to be simply utter death for eternity, spent nowhere but in the dust from which that person first came?
Genesis 3:19
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground [six feet down? Or, thousands of feet down?]; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
How does this Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary definition describe a hell that we’ve all been taught from religions? For, with these definitions, I can either see a traditional hell (by stretching the imagination quite a bit, though!), or I can see the grave only in its short definitions. Again, only six feet underground, but no further down; as it, firstly, says: “The world of the dead.” In that quick definition, we can see the grave only. Or, how about when it says: “…a ‘subterranean retreat.’ Which, also, can mean the grave only; being interred inside the Earth, but not as far down as its core. Then, at the end of that entry, it does say grave as one of its final definitions. Again, the scriptures of the King James English Bible are actually divided on its usage of this word sheol, in either translating it to grave or Hell (for, there is no other word in Hebrew to describe a traditional, burning hell); so, such a thought should merit deeper investigation. All of which, once again, I do get into extreme detail of in my book: “Satan, the Devil, and Hell.” … But, and even if somebody will say that the word does have those two different meanings (depending on where you look in the Bible, and of its context), there are still other scriptures that are very hard to get around when contending with the fate of sinning man. For, even though the scriptures seem to paint a picture of they standing before the judgement seat after they physically die (and there they are condemned to a fiery hell – Hebrews 9:27, for instance), there are other scriptures in that sacred book which actually contradict such an idea. And, if that’s really the case, then a “balance” of both kinds of scriptures are certainly in order … But, if that’s true, then which scripture contradicts that popular belief? That is, if such a scripture even exists?
Psalms 1:5a
Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment...
If the ungodly do not stand in the judgment (i.e. they’ll never be brought to trial – if I am even seeing this passage correctly), then how can they be condemned or sentenced to an eternal hell? … But perhaps Psalm 1:5a merely meant that they will be on their knees. That is, since they won’t be standing … Well, I’m not sure if strict literalism is really needed here … Actually, in the verse just above this one, in verse 4, the message really seems to indicate that the ungodly will simply vanish away like the wind – leaving no trace of them to be able to do anything in the future; including, no doubt, of standing anywhere to hear anything:
Psalms 1:4b-5a
The ungodly . . . are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. Therefore [and, because of this] the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment…
Reading these two verses together (4b-5a – and, in consideration of my own suggestions), it really seems more plausible to say that because they end-up vanishing like this wind, or a puff of smoke, that they won’t be around to be judged later-on by anybody. But yet, otherwise, once they are driven away, like a mere puff of smoke, or after bursting into small particles like the chaff, they’ll reappear for a future judgment? … Even though one would expect all commentaries to be contrary to my own thinking (for, it’s very popular to believe that the ungodly will be judged and punished one day, way-off into the future), I did surprisingly find amongst them this thought, concerning the verbiage: “the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment…”
Albert Barnes’ Notes on the Bible: The idea seems to be derived from the act of standing up to be tried, or to receive a sentence.
That is, they won’t do so … But, even if Albert Barnes may not have meant exactly what I am meaning, there’s still the possibility that he really did see it this way, in that the ungodly certainly won’t escape utter death, but that they will escape some sort of a trial at the end of times … However, and even so, I contend that such thoughts don’t actually contradict the “balancing” of scripture – that is, the thought that sinners won’t stand trial at the end of time – even if such thoughts do contradict popular doctrine. For, at the end of the day, we must allow scripture to dictate such thoughts for us. All of which, once again, I say more about, and in extreme details, in my book: “Satan, the Devil, and Hell;” and, particularly, about the great judgment, and of whom will stand trial, in chapter 9 therein, called: “On Sinning; On Laws; and, On Punishments.” Please consult that book for further say and research on all such thoughts that I have brought forward during this Explanatory Note. But, very quickly, and before I end this current thought, I will say that there will be some folks who will be, and who are currently being judged. For, that same book (Psalms) which says the ungodly won’t stand in the judgement, does offer evidence of who will:
Psalms 7:11a
God judgeth the righteous…
Again, this is but a small taste of what I fully cover in my book: “Satan, the Devil, and Hell,” of where I make better sense of all of these things.
*For, there is no other destination…
Sayings like this can certainly get me into a lot of trouble with readers! Why? Well, I don’t believe there to be any other destination for man other than either Heaven … or hell? … No, just either Heaven or six feet underground! That is, the dead soul has nowhere to go, because it’s actually dead. Again, the “souls” of sinners actually dies, and not just their bodies. And, if the soul be dead, then there’s nothing alive to go anywhere. So, you’ve guessed it! I cover all such thoughts in my book on Satan.
**Jesus preaching, as it were, through His ministers…
It can be argued that Jesus did that kind of preaching Himself during His earthen ministry, and before He had died on the cross.
Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, TO PREACH DELIVERANCE TO THE CAPTIVES, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised.
For, though that’s technically true, idealistically His preaching during those three and a half years was actually the planting of seeds, which did not come to full bloom until the Day of Pentecost when those seeds were finally watered by the Holy Ghost.**** The final result being, of course, that those folks had, at last, become born-again Christians – which new birth wasn’t even available when Jesus was yet preaching on Earth; for, what He did do was but a precursor for the results that were to come afterwards:
Acts 1:8a
But ye shall receive power, AFTER that the Holy Ghost is come upon you…
And, again, that was begun on the Day of Pentecost, of when Jesus’ prior messages (and, of which messages were continued through the apostles after His ascension), had finally become freeing to those who were affected by them. For, though the apostles spoke freeing words themselves, they weren’t their own words that they were preaching, but were the words of Jesus – who, again, freed many folks from their sins by the “messages” that were preached by the apostles and disciples of Christ who were conveying Jesus’ Gospel.
Luke 12:12
For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.
John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Therefore, Jesus Himself delivered messages to them via that Holy Spirit:
John 14:18
I [Jesus] will not leave you comfortless [without the Comforter/Holy Ghost]: I [Jesus] will come to you [through the Comforter].
Therefore, I say again, that Jesus’ messages (spoken both during His earthen ministry, and also continued to be spoken by the disciples) were setting captives free from their imprisonment of trespasses and sins, but had nothing to do with anybody in hell.
***Poured out his soul unto death…
To help illustrate further that Jesus had died body, soul, and spirit, Isaiah not only shows us that Jesus’ soul had died, but the Gospels certainly tell us that his body had died, too. But, what about His spirit?*^ Well, if it was necessary for the Father to give Him His Spirit, to bring Jesus back to life, then that should prove to us that Jesus had no Spirit in Him at that point.
1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh [His body dying], but quickened [made alive] by the Spirit [which was missing from Him at that time].
Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken [make alive] your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Actually, He was minus both the Spirit of His Father and of the spirit of man after dying on the cross (a thought that will become much clearer in this book as we continue on) … And, as a final thought on this, that if this is really true (in that Jesus was “completely” dead whilst in the tomb), then this situation must beg the question (for a Oneness position on the Godhead), of how He and the Father can be the same, exact Being.
****Watered by the Holy Ghost…
Make no mistake, the Holy Ghost, at times in scripture, is comparable to water … Once more, consider:
John 7:38-39a (Jesus speaking)
He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. But this [water] spake he of the Spirit…
As it’s also the Word of God…
Ephesians 5:26b
…the washing of water by the word.
And, it can also, metaphorically, describe a group of people…
Revelation 17:15
And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Again, let’s keep things within the context of its current subject within the biblical account.
*^But, what about His spirit?...
Yes, I like being meticulous! For, with such a study as this, why not be meticulous? … Even though most folks may not think of this, it sure doesn’t mean that somebody hasn’t! What I mean is, and as we see in the Gospel accounts…
Luke 23:46
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend MY SPIRIT: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
On the cross, did Jesus only lose His own Spirit – a separate Spirit, perhaps, from His Father-God? Or, was it the Holy Spirit that He had lost? Or, perhaps, both! … Such a topic deserves a very deep study of the word spirit. That is, of the Greek word Pneuma, from which our English word spirit had derived. And, that’s just exactly what we’ll be doing in the course of this very book, and as I build my case more solidly; for, admittedly, we’re still pretty early in to have gone too deeply as of yet; and, I’ll certainly get into a nitty-gritty study on both the word spirit and, indeed, soul; in showing that both words, at times, can certainly be interchangeable – meaning the same thing – as Webster’s Dictionary confirms for us; especially when for spirit, therein, we can find the definition of soul; and, visa-versa, for soul’s definition, we see spirit. We even see examples of them being the same in the Bible itself:
Mark 8:12a
And he [Jesus] sighed deeply in his SPIRIT, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign?...
Spirit/Pneuma (pnyoo'-mah), G4151, from Strong’s Greek Dictionary: From G4154; a current of air, that is, breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively a SPIRIT, that is, (human) the rational SOUL, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, daemon, or (divine) God, Christ’s spirit, the Holy spirit: - ghost, life, spirit (-ual, -ually), mind. Compare G5590.
But, at other times in the Bible, they can certainly mean two totally different things. For instance, here:
1 Corinthians 15:45
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living SOUL; the last Adam was made a quickening SPIRIT.
And, here:
Hebrews 4:12a
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the DIVIDING ASUNDER of soul and spirit [making them two separate things]…
So, what’s the answer? My quick answer for Luke 23:46 (“I commend MY SPIRIT”) is that Jesus had actually lost His soul unto death – as says Isaiah, here (and, as I have already quoted a bit earlier during this Explanatory Note):
Isaiah 53:12
Therefore will I divide him [Jesus] a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because HE HATH POURED OUT HIS SOUL UNTO DEATH: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
And, this is despite the Greek word Pneuma meaning either soul or spirit. But, again (and, in this present book), I’ll get nitty-gritty with all of this; and, before long, one will certainly see why I would come to that conclusion. That is, and of what Jesus had meant in Luke 23:46, was that He was commending His soul into the Father’s hands (despite the translators deciding to use spirit there) – being separate from the Holy Spirit that had also been in Him. And, yet, He even lost that! Losing, in reality, His body, soul, and spirit.
*19. Not a life after death… This does not discount the possibility of us having life after death in Heaven – only life after death “outside” of Heaven. Once again, I speak fully on these ideas in my book on Satan; and, of how the soul of a person either completely dies, or goes to be with God in Heaven (and, I say a bit more on such thoughts in my last Explanatory Note, which was called: “As if some type of animated Being had left their body to spook folks here on Earth…”) … But, I am quite aware that by me just saying so doesn’t prove it beyond every doubt! … As these thoughts, in this book, are but side-thoughts (i.e., that is, my Explanatory Notes – and, even though very important to consider!), I simply don’t have the room to cover all that has already been covered, in many pages, in my aforementioned book on Satan. Please check that title for anything satisfactory to come across; that is, for deeper thoughts.
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END OF CHAPTER 2 ... MORE CHAPTERS TO COME!